In future I will try to enter new questions as a separate posting, so responses can be more easily connected with the original question. I'll start with Don's revoke question:

" Declarer is in dummy and the last five or six tricks in dummy are good. Declarer spaces out or gets careless and revokes in her hand while playing the remaining good tricks in dummy. Does this constitute a revoke or is this no harm/no foul?"

I agree with the response that "a revoke is a revoke", however, I would be happier if I had more facts to be able to confirm that what occurred was in fact a revoke. If declarer is in dummy and all the tricks are good, then it appears that a claim or concession is in order. Did declarer play it out trick by trick without claiming or without an opponent conceding? Or did declarer start playing and discarding quickly as if to demonstrate a claim?  Was there truly no way to get out of dummy or was it essential for declarer to unblock or to play cards from the top to make sure s/he didn't get back to hand? Did someone call the director to report the revoke? (If dummy was indeed good then some opponents might take the 'no harm, no foul' position and not call the director to enforce a revoke penalty, in effect making a concession.).

Assuming that there was no claim or concession and the defenders called the director to report a revoke other than a trick 12 revoke, then director has a responsibility to check all of the relevant facts to make sure that what happened wasn't the equivalent of a claim. If the director determines after reviewing all the facts that what happened was an established revoke and not an implied claim, then, in my opinion, the revoke penalty would be appropriate.

 


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don marsh
04/26/2011 11:25

Ed,

Newer player who did not feel comfortable, I suspect, claiming. For sake of discussion and to answer my question, let's assume that Declarer is in dummy and all the tricks are good. And let's assume that declarer cannot get to her hand. And yes, she inadvertently "revokes" in the course of playing the cards from her hand. I understand it is a "revoke" but I'm also wanting to consider the guideline of trying to establish a "fair bridge result" and not assess a penalty where it isn't appropriate.

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Ed Parker
04/26/2011 12:07

Especially at club games when newer players are involved, I feel it is important to use director calls as teaching moments that help newer players. Rigid rule enforcement without pleasant explanations don't help us teach the newer players how much fun our game really is.

I would teach the revoke rule, teach the procedure for claiming and warn the offender to be more careful in future. However, I would choose to interpret the situation as an implied claim and therefore not invoke the penalty in this circumstance.

I also think it is important to have an appeals process for club games, so that players who think they are damaged by a director ruling have an opportunity for redress. I would tell the non-offending pair they have a right to appeal, but encourage them not to. An appeals committee might insist on strict enforcement of the rules.

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Imogene Enzweiler
03/15/2012 04:25

On the fourth trick in a notrump contract, North led the A of hearts to which declarer West played the 3 of clubs from his hand. At end of play director was called by North to report the revoke by declarer as he subsequently played and won heart tricks, maybe one or two. The contract was 1NT by West making plus one. Director cited the rule that as no trick was taken by declarer in the revoke trick, there would only be a one trick penalty and the contract was made 1NT no overtricks. North felt damaged as she would have played her cards differently had she known declarer had hearts remaining in his hand. What is your comment?

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Ed Parker
03/15/2012 10:41

A possible exception to the rule cited by the director in this example is Law 64C (Law 64 is the law specifying the procedure after establishment of a revoke). 64C says, "Director Responsible for Equity. When, after any established revoke, including those not subject to rectification, the Director deems that the non-offending side is insufficiently compensated by this law for the damage caused, he shall assign an adjusted score."

Suppose, for example, the revoke by declarer resulted in his keeping a low card that later permits an entry to dummy that would not otherwise exist and that then permits declarer to win dummy tricks he would otherwise not get. In that case declarer would get an unfair advantage from the revoke and the Director should award an adjusted score that is more equitable than the standard one trick penalty. If the opponents can persuade the director that absent the revoke, they had a defense that would result in an analogous situation where declarer would not be able to make the contract without the revoke, then a further adjustment could be appropriate. Just claiming that they would have defended differently without the revoke is not sufficient for Law 64C to apply.

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